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Savio · Jan 11, 2008, 12:19 AM // 00:19

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Originally Posted by Brian the Gladiator

THE REASON WHY PEOPLE DON'T PLAY PARAGONS IS FOR THE SIMPLE FACT THAT PEOPLE THINK PARAGONS ARE OVERWELMINGLY THE MOST BORING CLASS TO PLAY IN THE GAME!!!

No, it's because people are stupid. Additionally the spear is not as cool as a scythe or daggers.

Faer · Jan 11, 2008, 01:31 AM // 01:31

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Originally Posted by Kwan Xi

Then Depending on what's needed I would either bring certain Skills to help the party out

Leadership: 6-12
"There's Nothing to Fear!"

I'm sorry, but is there some specific reason you don't always have "There's Nothing to Fear!" on your PvE Paragon bars?

kobey · Jan 11, 2008, 01:48 AM // 01:48

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Originally Posted by Brian the Gladiator

I know not everyone will agree with the majority, but again, it is the majority.

Also, saying you don't like a specific build that is played on a different profession isn't countering my original statement. I'm guessing that, by saying "tanknspank" you mean a Warrior using defensive skills with the intention of attracting NPC agro and reducing the damage while others dish it. If this is in fact what you mean, then don't use that build. If you are trying to suggest that Paragons in general are more fun than Warriors, I am guessing there will be a TON OF PEOPLE ready to flame/disagree with you.

Majority?

Who cares about the majority? The majorty of GW players are weaker than the heros of the minority. Yes, it is a statement. Come flame me.

Edit: Just in case you want more facts, the minority together have more titles than the majority combined, the minority's wealth is way way more than the wealth of the majority.

blue.rellik · Jan 11, 2008, 04:57 AM // 04:57

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Originally Posted by Savio

No, it's because people are stupid. Additionally the spear is not as cool as a scythe or daggers.

That is completely true, when I first heard about scythes, I was like 'Wow omg! High damage weapon with a natural aoe? And I get to look like the grim reaper as well? Awesome sauce!'. Spears initially were meh to me, I was thinking them as crappy bows.

Of course I couldn't be further from the truth

Racthoh · Jan 11, 2008, 05:30 AM // 05:30

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Originally Posted by Brian the Gladiator

Also, saying you don't like a specific build that is played on a different profession isn't countering my original statement.

I was merely stating my opinion (hence the IMO) having played both at some point in time. It's a terrible experience standing around doing absolutely nothing when you could have 14 in weapon to beat the hell out of stuff. If you haven't played it before, don't.

The majority of players don't care about how boring/enjoyable a class is, they care about how much money they can make with it. Paragons are terrible at soloing and they don't have any big numbered skills with an AoE effect. Even with the ability to provide a party-wide 90%~ reduction players would prefer to load up a single character with buffs and let it sponge the damage. It's the tried and true strategy of your typical PuG. You'll have a difficult time breaking that mold.

As an example, at the time of posting this there are 77 people viewing the Farming section. The next closest Campfire forum is at 22. For that matter there are 56,000~ farming threads with warrior in second at 32,000~.

Terraban · Jan 11, 2008, 05:45 AM // 05:45

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

I was merely stating my opinion (hence the IMO) having played both at some point in time. It's a terrible experience standing around doing absolutely nothing when you could have 14 in weapon to beat the hell out of stuff. If you haven't played it before, don't.

The simple minded 12 yr olds get to see a bunch of numbers and grow their e-peen, and the Warrior gets to fulfill his fantasy that he had when he made his wammo.

Really, tank/nuke/heal is good because it allows dumb players do accomplish things.

The Monks? They target one person the whole time, not that is hard.
The Eles? They stand back and just cast all of their skills as soon as they can, so easy that a retarded monkey that is addicted to crack could do it.
The Warrior? Cast spells run in...then masturbate to your fantasy of being a tank.

Turtle222 · Jan 11, 2008, 10:18 AM // 10:18

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Originally Posted by kobey

Majority?

Who cares about the majority? The majorty of GW players are weaker than the heros of the minority. Yes, it is a statement. Come flame me.

Edit: Just in case you want more facts, the minority together have more titles than the majority combined, the minority's wealth is way way more than the wealth of the majority.

this man speaks the truth. listen to him

wazz · Jan 11, 2008, 06:07 PM // 18:07

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Originally Posted by kobey

Majority?

Who cares about the majority?.

A-net (or atleast NCsoft)
And ... eh... the majority of all GW players ?

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Originally Posted by kobey

The majorty of GW players are weaker than the heros of the minority. Yes, it is a statement. Come flame me.

Edit: Just in case you want more facts, the minority together have more titles than the majority combined, the minority's wealth is way way more than the wealth of the majority.

IMO: the average PuG has no synergy, because people don't feel like adapting there builds.
Heros at the other hand do synergy eassier.

So yeh your right, the heros of the minority are better then the average GW player. But not because the average player suck.

angmar_nite · Jan 14, 2008, 12:07 AM // 00:07

Average player does suck... Average player doesnt wiki.

Average player doesnt use attunement on eles, soul reaping on necros, and SY on paragons. Average players whine when something doesnt go right, and they rage quit.

Liselle Morrow · Jan 14, 2008, 12:23 AM // 00:23

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Originally Posted by angmar_nite

Average player does suck... Average player doesnt wiki.

Average player doesnt use attunement on eles, soul reaping on necros, and SY on paragons. Average players whine when something doesnt go right, and they rage quit.

Wrong...
"Average player" is the - it worked in pre so why not now, oh wait it's not working, hmm let me rethink this build - kind of player.

What you're referring to is "I'm so leet I don't have to listen to anyone's advice -> /ignore player"

Elementer Masta · Jan 14, 2008, 01:20 AM // 01:20

Hmm, I can't speak for anyone else, but the reason I don't run a Paragon, is simply because I can't play them well. I consider it unfair to my teammates if I run a character that I am incapable of playing properly. But just because I don't play them, doesn't mean I don't like them. I always try to have a Paragon on the team.

Endemix · Jan 17, 2008, 04:30 PM // 16:30

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

The only problem with paragons is the number of people who aren't aware of what they can do.

agreed everyone says paragon is made for support only and no damage at all..and its not even close to true

Marverick · Jan 18, 2008, 01:55 AM // 01:55

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Originally Posted by Brian the Gladiator

THE REASON WHY PEOPLE DON'T PLAY PARAGONS IS FOR THE SIMPLE FACT THAT PEOPLE THINK PARAGONS ARE OVERWELMINGLY THE MOST BORING CLASS TO PLAY IN THE GAME!!!

I have to say I agree here.

I mean, don't get me wrong, Paragons are incredibly effective in PvE. The problem? They have one amazing build and everything else is completely overshadowed by it to the point that they aren't worth running.

Mr Pink57 · Jan 18, 2008, 03:18 AM // 03:18

^^They have one amazing build as a solo paragon, but teamed with another or many paragons we have seen what they can do (Paraspike, Singers of Woe, Yellow Way), so we are kinda stuck even though my DPS paragon build could out do that silly wammo any day who still clinges to Hundred Blades.

Also since we seem to be rejected so much by the at large community you will only find one in a group, or you get a new paragon on your team who has a terrible build filled with just atks and nothing else.

pink